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How Come I Get All These “bush Is Hitler” Posts, But No Dems Talk About Candidates For 2008?

Sheesh, any post with Bush in it gets all the lib attention but I put up a post about Mark Warner, a good Dem contender and no one cares. You guys can’t run an Anti-Bush platform if he isn’t there. Who do you guys want in 2008? WITHOUT KNOCKING BUSH. And why do you think they will be good?

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  • john_sto says:

    I like Warner. I also like Evan Bayh. Recent polls put the 2 of them at the bottom of the pack as likely candidates, though, far behind Hillary, John Edwards, and John Kerry. None of the top 3 would bring in enough “swing voters” to win. Warner and Bayh are moderate enough to do it, though. Another possible, who few people mention, is Wesley Clark, who I like a lot, too (enough to write in his name on my 2004 ballot). I have yet to hear Mike Gravel’s name mentioned, either, even though he is one of the few who have actually announced their candidacy. I like his stance on direct democracy and the FairTax plan. The full list is: Announced candidates for the Democratic Party: Senator Joe Biden of Delaware Senator Christopher Dodd of Connecticut Former Senator Mike Gravel of Alaska Likely candidates Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana Retired General Wesley Clark of Arkansas Senator Hillary Clinton of New York Former Senator Tom Daschle of South Dakota Former Senator John Edwards of North Carolina Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico Governor Tom Vilsack of Iowa Former Governor Mark Warner of Virginia Other potential candidates Senator Barbara Boxer of California Governor Phil Bredesen of Tennessee Governor Mike Easley of North Carolina Former Vice President Al Gore of Tennessee Representative Dennis Kucinich of Ohio Governor Joe Manchin of West Virginia Senator Barack Obama of Illinois Governor Brian Schweitzer of Montana Reverend Al Sharpton of New York edit: I would definately vote for Warner, Bayh, or Wesley Clark. I like John Edwards as a person, but he’d be a horrible president. I like Gravel a lot, too, but don’t think he could get the moderate support my “big 3” could get. I think that there is too much distrust and/or hatred toward everyone in the “Washington crowd” for a Senator or Representative to take the White House. If I had to pick one, it’d be Clark, simply because I know more about him than the others, having supported him in ’04. But, once I read more into the candidates, my pick may change.

    August 15, 2013 at 2:32 pm
  • william j says:

    Feingold. It doesn’t matter why I would want him as a candidate because someone will definitely make some kind of attacking statement anyway.

    August 15, 2013 at 5:56 pm
  • Truth Seeker says:

    What does it matter? The vote, with the cooperation of Diebold, will probably be stolen anyway! Besides, other than Satan himself, anyone would be better than who we have now! Even if it is a Repug!

    August 15, 2013 at 6:41 pm
  • larry648 says:

    didn’t you hear about hillary?

    August 15, 2013 at 10:43 pm
  • Brianman says:

    Republicans and Democrats are the same. Vote libertarian. Or at least vote for the reform party. The only way we can get out of this vicious cycle is to take a step in a new direction. Americans think that they have a choice because there are two candidates on the platform, and we get to choose one of them. But most of the votes end up going towards someone the voters hate less than the other candidate. They vote for the lesser of two evils, if you will. So, yes, we do have a choice, but the government and media do their best to limit that choice, and to give us the illusion that a third party vote would be wasted, thus ensuring one of their guys (republicrats) will be elected. I could go on as to why you should vote for a third party, but it’d be a novel, so I have to stop somewhere, and I’d get farther and farther away from the question’s topic. I suppose to answer your question directly, the reason dems have to candidates is because everyone knows that they’ll be the same as Bush. While there are plenty of Americans that are fed up with their loss of freedom(like myself), there are plenty who have been brainwashed into fearing the terrorists and WANT to give up their freedom(however permanently) if it gives them any sense of safety(however temporary). The reason you actually receive the posts is either because people truly fear the direction Bush is leading the country, setting a platform for a dictatorship, OR it’s because democrats want to get their guy elected next, so they make the republicans look evil. Since your question states that the democrats do not offer an alternative, I would guess that it is the first choice.

    August 16, 2013 at 5:27 am
  • sgldadpl says:

    First; Bush is related to Hitler because he is seen to be conducting military actions (forcing democracy on other countries) that is really none of our business…Second; people forget the President is more of a figure head that makes final decissions based on what others tell him (right or wrong), third; the objective is simple, get people to dislike the Rep. party & they will vote for a Dem. just because they don’t trust Rep. & figure anyone else has to be better and lastly; I believe almost all politicians are nothing more than money & power hungry professional liars, willing to say anything to get elected to a high paying, cushy, long lasting job, so they can then follow thier own agenda once in office…None of them have a clue what is going on or simply don’t care about anyone but themselves…I have simple answers to big problems & nobody will listen…I think we need to do a serious house cleaning in all government & put people in that will actually do what is needed, but that will never happen…

    August 16, 2013 at 5:44 am
  • jeffrey_ says:

    I think a big part of the issue is that most of us don’t know who the candidates are, or what they are all about. And it really doesn’t matter, because the presidency is not what controls this country. Congress and the senate control everything. The president is just a P.R. ginuea pig. He/she has the power of veto, but only if less than 2/3 of the votes support the proposal. A 2/3 vote can override the presidency, and I’m sure has many times in the past. The president does’nt even write the speeches. Someone else writes them, edits them, to make sure the president says what they want, instead of what the president wants. And as far as elections, electoral votes are what elect people, not our individual votes. For those that don’t know, our votes are counted only as a courtesy. The representiatives in each state that cast electoral votes only use our votes as a suggestion. They do not have to vote the same way we do. Even if 100% of a vote says one thing, they can still vote differently. And I’m sure there is a lot of crooked counting going on, not just in FL, but everywhere. There are plenty of crooked town clerks out there. If I recall, the original Constitution of the U.S. made them count individual votes. But, somehow over the decades congress and the senate have changed the constitution to have electoral votes, instead. It’s more of a popularity vote now. Some say 1 vote can make a difference, but the sad fact is even 1,000,000 doesn’t make a difference. A 1 vote difference might matter in a local election, though, where individual votes are counted. So the summary is it doesn’t matter who is president, only who controls that president.

    August 16, 2013 at 10:26 am
  • zclifton says:

    Mark Warner of Virginia was an excellent moderate Democratic Governor who is know running for President in 08. One of his accomplishment was salvaging Virginia’s many problems after a Republican Governor left with the State in major debt. (why does this sound familiar) Warner had to call a special session of the Assembly to get anything done with a Republican controlled legislature. But he did it, and balanced the budget ,and he is now respected by both sides. But, Senator Barack Obama is man to beat at this point. Check him out. He has the vision, the plans, the voice, and Allis and the ability to be a great President.

    August 16, 2013 at 4:43 pm
  • Weatherm says:

    Do you know anything about anything? Party candidates will never start campaigning two plus years before an election. I will leave it to you to figure out why. Maybe you might give yourself a headache. Now as to your Bush=Hitler fallacy. I’m going to say this clearly so you will understand. Anyone who makes a comparison similar to the one you say liberals are making (which I believe you made up to support some hare-brained theory of your masters) has conceded whatever argument they were making. Why would any liberal say such crap? Most liberals, not all, (because limited thinking is not just a bastion of republican thought) have a well developed ability for critical thinking. Answer: they don’t say such crap. Now, for a short history quiz. Whose two grandfathers were in business with the Hitler regime before and during WW2? If you answered GW Bush you would be correct. Google “walker-bush” and “german steel trust” So, Bush’s family helped finance the buildup and arming of the NAZIs.

    August 16, 2013 at 5:03 pm

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